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also, just found I was somehow a fool... fresh from blueprint mantis and jaegar had gyros on them locked to upright, but the ones I left in my world had them reset to normal, no wonder I was staggering around like a drunken rugby player
and I must admit, lots of craters, but that was mostly because they are a LOT of fun to pilot, thought of doing a two person mech? one person controlling the legs and direction of travel, and making the top half similar to a turret and individually controlled? might make taking on aircraft drones a bit easier