hello there, guys.

I would like to say that is was a real pleasure to spend times with you, each and every person I have met in this game:
all the pro's that taught me and kicked my arse, making me mad,
all the normal guys that were really friendly or sometimes constantly cursing,
all the guys who took part is HWKsPA discussions (its been a honor for me to talk with each of you),
all the streamers who once again helped me to improve,
all the forumers, clan members, random pubbers, cheaters and even devs after all...
special thanks to Khang Le. maybe I am wrong here but somehow I have a feeling that all the best things is Hawken happened right because of this person.

Hawken used to be a masterpiece once.
and I want to keep it that way in my memory.

so thank you all and farewell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xCDRQEn3IE

TOPICS: Devs2Community communication and Monetization
Sunday, 14:30 (PST) / 21:30 (GMT)
Participants:
Beemann & h0b0 (SK), Xacius (BSB), Rasti (BV), Pure Amazing (OWL), irish_00 (TAW) & somebody else if we will get lucky.

Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/hwkspa/b/513725391/

Hello there,
We'd like to offer last weeks live discussions to your judgement. In order to gather more opinions, suggestions, etc!:

TOPIC: Hawken's progress from Alpha to Steam: achievements, failures and ways to improve.
Participants:

Covering a history of Hawken and the changes made to some basic game mechanics.

BONUS:


TOPIC: 3 Hawkens: Pre-Ascension, Ascension & Steam. Which had a better mechanics and is there a compromise inbetween all 3.
EU session Participants:

Which iteration of Hawken was the most enjoyable to each participant? What did you enjoy from back then and what do you enjoy with the current build?

Deoad: Currenyly Hawken is more polished. Pre-ascension had performance issues. Classes were more defined before ascension. Steam build improved on Ascension. Steam is my favorite.
Pure Amazing: Alpha was the best. Lots of similarities between Steam and Alpha so Steam is better than previous stuff.
Hrono: Miss the Switch button - hard to organize matches. Steam patch game dynamic is even better than pre-ascension. Old HUD was better. New patch is ok.
irish_00: Higher armor values gave bigger variety of choices. Short TTK gives a headshot feeling after alphastrikes. Don't like simplified mechanics of Steam patch.
Rasti: Alpha was the best. The mechs felt more immersive.
Oo_Olio_oO: Raider patch when I came. Immersion was great, now mech is kinda plastic. Higher secondary damage and higher cooldowns were more interesting. Yes, changes maded in Steam update brought back players that had left with ascension. Currently air dynamic and removal of air spread is not good. If you were flying previously you were noob. Now its upside down.

What changes do you believe are required to improve the current state of the game?

Deoad: Re-add spread to flying. Address the air compressor issue.
Technician REWORK. Incinerator REWORK.
Pure Amazing: Balance changes: fix air compressor, rework tech (its too easy to use).
Hrono: No downsides for mechanics now: dodge w/o fuel and radar show-up, air fight without spread or recoil. This could have brought more depth to the game and you'd have to think more about your actions.
irish_00: More resources to manage(heat, fuel, spread, health, etc...)
Rasti: Core mechanics is good. Fix current problems before adding more to the game. Fix air combat so its not superior to ground combat.
Oo_Olio_oO: More resource management. Fuel, heat, dodging. Balance old things before adding any new mechanics. Implement a counter to air compressor.

US session Participants:

Which iteration of Hawken was the most enjoyable to each participant? What did you enjoy from back then and what do you enjoy with the current build?

Beemann: Alpha. Speed & HP was higher.
Xacius: Alpha or CB2. At least speedwise. Now speeds were reduced drastically comparing to old builds, at least for Bs and Cs.
ThirdEyE: Raider patch when I started playing regularly. Immersion, TTK, dmg values. Ascension felt like a mistake, especially new internals. Now Hawken is in a pretty good spot.
irish_00: Ascension when I came. Things to manage and high TTK.
Rasti: Alpha build. For subjective reason: first impressions, immersion, atmosphere.
interrobang87: Ascension is preferred. started playing after the reaper patch. favourite is a mix between ascension and now. pre-ascension HUD was immersive, shooting siege ship was more immersive.

What changes do you believe are required to improve the current state of the game?

ThirdEyE: Air speeds and air compressor has to be balanced, not every mech has good air dynamics. Maybe slight speed increase. Internals system isn't satisfactory and needs some work. Effective weapons range look up: SS effective through all map, while raider/brawler only at close range. Introduce more game modes so all classes can benefit evenly.
interrobang87: Balance changes: fix air compressior, rework tech (its too easy to use). More info from HUD - distance, dmg loss. Secondaries: Long cooldown and high damage means more emphasis on hiting the secondary and means more impactful choices. Slower turn rate cap. More immersive elements along with HUD. HP increase: 5% or 10%.
Rasti: Overall balance of air and ground combat. Increase dodge time or some other option.
Xacius: Sustain weapons damage nerf. Additional movement system (not through internal).
Beemann: Decision has to be made where this game has to go, especially considering all the previous contradicting moves.
irish_00: Improved communication with community. More armour - at least 100 HP each. More depth to the game.
h0b0: More resource management. Higher TTK.

Prioritize fixing the game in its current form before adding more to it.
Air combat needs to be brought in line with ground combat.
Make it so resource management requires meaningful choices (edit: bring more depth - irish_00).

Full version (with BONUS parts): https://community.playhawken.com/topic/37101-hwkspa-1-2-discussions-report/

TOPIC: Hawken's progress from Alpha to Steam: achievements, failures and ways to improve.

EU Session #1 Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/hwkspa/b/511357824
Participants: h0b0 (SK), Pure Amazing (OWL), Houruck (BSB), Requiem132 (vR), Hrono (VP), irish_00 (TAW)

US Session #2 Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/hwkspa/b/511427530 (5 mins long)
Participants: Beemann (SK), Xacius (BSB), Rasti (BV), GookYwuN (OWL), Oo_Olio_oO & irish_00 (TAW)

TOPIC: 3 Hawkens: Pre-Ascension, Ascension & Steam. Which had a better mechanics and is there a compromise inbetween all 3.

EU Session #2 Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/hwkspa/b/511693338
Participants: Deoad & Pure Amazing (OWL), Hrono (VP), Rasti (BV), Oo_Olio_oO & irish_00 (TAW)

US Session #2 Archive: http://www.twitch.tv/hwkspa/b/511760311
Participants: Beemann (SK), Xacius (BSB), ThirdEyE (vR), Rasti (BV), irish_00 (TAW), Interrobang87

Attention, gentlemen!
HWKsPA Discussion sessions this weekend (15-16th of March).
Times to be announced soon. Roughly: 12 AM for EU and 4 PM for US session each day (PST)


Potential participants: