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Unhappy with Tripwire and PC Gamer Ripped off
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Unhappy with Tripwire and PC Gamer Ripped off
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關於 Unhappy with Tripwire and PC Gamer

Unhappy with Tripwire and PC Gamer

This group is for the thousands of people who spent money to buy PC Gamer magazine to get the Triwpire Dosh Jacket Skin

The promotion specifically said
" the ONLY way to get this unique skin is to BUY the PRINT edition." That was print edition #254 . And bolded this sentence to show it was the most important part of the promotion.

They repeat that it is only in the print edition THREE TIMES !!!! It is in the title , it is in the bolded part of the promotion, and it is the last sentence of the promotion.

http://www.pcgamer.com/get-this-exclusive-killing-floor-2-skin-in-the-print-edition-of-pc-gamer-us-254/#!

Tripwire was well aware of this promotion. Here is TWI Yoshiro telling people about it on the Tripwire forums

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1435573&postcount=5

here is a Tweet from John Gibson , president of TWI announcing the giveaway
https://twitter.com/RammJaeger/status/639836746713272320

We want a response from Tripwire and PC Gamer and we want resolution. Why were we tricked into spending money? If it wasn't ONLY going to be in the print edition, we would not have bought the print edition.

Here are our requests for TWI

- an official response and begin an open dialogue for resolution
- find a compromise. The easiest compromise is for them to create a different skin for the PC Gamer giveaway, similar to how the addressed the Harchier Spebbington issue
- alternatively, Tripwire could work withPC Gamer to give a refund to every person involved, or in lieu of cash a free copy of KF 2 or a "season pass" that would ensure we get at least two DLCs in the future for free


Response from TWI
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=1444421&postcount=144

Better Business Bureau[www.bbb.org]
PC Gamer
Tripwire Interactive games contact page[www.tripwireinteractive.com]
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Official response from TWI
Hey Bigguns,

Sorry for taking awhile but I have an answer back from our owners. They have elected to keep the existing jackets as is, and moving forward they will create a new variation to be used.
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Again, please do not reply to this email. You must go to the following page to reply to this private message:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/private.php

All the best,
Tripwire Interactive Forums


Steam Forums
http://steamoss.com/app/232090/discussions/0/527274088394014949/


Tripwire KF 2 forum
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=112734&page=5



CLARIFICATION OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN

1. everyone who bought the magazine will keep the original dosh jacket
2. everyone who was in the contest will keep the original dosh jacket
3. No new codes will be given out for the original dosh jacket
4. Future promotions by TWI may include a dosh jacket, but it will be different

TWI HAS RESPONDED !!!! WILLING TO WORK WITH US !!
引用自 Yoshiro
Hello all interested parties in this thread.



I've been in an out of the office for the past few weeks due to family so while I have been tracking this issue and gathering information on it I have not previously stepped into it because I did not have all the needed facts.



The run down/backstory: We created a Dosh Jacket for Mr. Foster intended as a timed exclusive that we could reuse at a later date. However during a period of time it is up to PCGamer to give out how they like (we have no input on how they distribute it to my knowledge).



Arguably it can be claimed that they originally marketed the code as exclusive to the print magazine version of PC Gamer. As far as I am aware the writing was intended to point out that the code would not be in the digital version of the magazine (not that it could not be used later).



Where we are now: There are currently 116,000 Dosh Jacket keys that have been distributed. In the steam backend there exists no way to separate the two groups of key holders (the original 100,000 and the 8,000 raffle followup keys - the original 8,000 raffle keys are distinguishable but due to the problems with those keys a switch was made for the followups that make them indistinguishable).



Options that are available to us:

1) We can make a change to 108,000 keys and moving forward there would be a different set (now that the other set is working) - what that change would be we don't know

2) I can ask Valve to refund the game for all members of a game group on Steam (they will likely tell me no, but I can ask).



Unfeasible options that are not available:

1) Remove all dosh keys (we can turn it off)

2) I can ask all users to provide a proof of purchase of the magazine at retail news stands or via the PC Gamer website (100,000 users)





People should respond to thank TWI on both Steam and TWI forums. We also need feed back from the group on what we want as a resolution

1. make a change to all existing skins
This would include the giveaway, but all future give aways would be a different skin and limit this skin to 100k people KF 1 had over 2 million copies sold I believe.

2. make a change to skins of people in this group and anyone who request the change

This would be a much smaller group. Might be an issue for people who are not participating but we could work on making this solution public and giving people two weeks to sign up


3. asking for a refund for KF 2
you get a refund and KF 2 is removed from your library. I do not favor this solution

4. Another option that was mentioned by Lamont
- leave all Dosh jackets they way they are
- give all KF 2 players a different Dosh jacket, perhaps all lower case or say money instead of dosh. So old DOSH jacket winners also get the money /dosh jacket.

5. Add additional skin like a Dosh Top hat for all current codes. That would mean anyone who bought the magazine and anyone who won one in the contest because TWI can not seperate the two automatically

6. Everyone who bought the magazine submit a screen shot showing you installed the code BEFORE the giveaway started. Those people would have their Dosh jackets changed or an additional skin added like a Dosh Top Hat.


7. you tell me the solution
have an idiea? post it.


Please respond in this thread as quickly as possible.

61 則留言
RAMBO 2015 年 11 月 18 日 上午 7:22 
There definitley seems to be an "Ignore it and it will go away" strategy by Tripwire. They've ignored players about the teleporting issue, as well as other issues. I believe that strategy will cost them in the long run.
Anko 2015 年 11 月 11 日 下午 12:14 
I agree the outcome we got was based on hoping this issue would go away, if the dosh skin goes out again with no change i will be the one starting another thread on the issue.
Bigguns 93 2015 年 11 月 5 日 下午 6:27 
Offensive Screen-name 2015 年 11 月 1 日 下午 3:59 
We can all agree that Yoshiro's post is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ timewasting. They're hoping that the problem will go away this way because ignoring it outright before didn't work for them.
Bigguns 93 2015 年 11 月 1 日 下午 2:11 
RAMBO 2015 年 10 月 31 日 下午 7:16 
Yes, I'd say that Moskeeto is biased as well. Of course he bans people so they can't reply. He doesn't like for people to be able to counter his arguments. I'm one of those people who he banned.
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